• Hillsong Christian Church Song Writer Marty Sampson Says He Has Left the Christian Faith

Hillsong Christian Church Song Writer Marty Sampson Says He Has Left the Christian Faith

Before I get to listing the links to the news story about Christian song writer Marty Sampson saying on his social media that he has now left the Christian faith, I wanted to make a few comments first.

Some of the comments from Christians regarding Sampson leaving the faith are either sad or ignorant.

This is from Ken Ham of Answers In Genesis (who I’ve actually defended on this blog in the past, in another context) said this (link is below):

Answers in Genesis founder Ken Ham said Sampson’s rejection of his former beliefs reinforces the need for parents to instruct their children in doctrinal truths at an early age. “This sad situation about this person is a reminder the church & parents need to teach apologetics to counter today’s attacks on God’s Word,” he tweeted.
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I find that a lot of Christians who are still in the “Christian Bubble” do not grasp how and why adult Christians leave the faith, or are considering leaving.

I myself was brought up in the Christian faith and read a lot of Christian apologetics literature from my mid-teens to around my late twenties to early thirties.

And, of course, I also regularly read the Bible, and I spent a few years reading about the history of the Bible, in particular the history of English language Bible translations.

So believe you me, contrary to what Ken Ham believes, a lack of being instructed about the faith from childhood, and hearing defenses of it, and being educated about Christianity, are not at play in why some Christians leave the faith (or may leave it), at least not in my case.

I was steeped in Christianity as a kid and into my adult years, and I did a ton of reading on apologetics, and none of that has changed the fact I’ve been in a faith crisis the last several years.

Farther below, under one of the last links, I have several more comments.

Update August 13, 2019:  
Hillsong worship leader clarifies he hasn’t renounced faith, but it’s on ‘incredibly shaky ground’

Hillsong Songwriter Marty Sampson Says He’s Losing His Christian FaithHillsong worship leader Marty Sampson announces he’s ‘losing’ his faith

Hillsong writer reveals he’s no longer a Christian: ‘I’m genuinely losing my faith’

By Leah MarieAnn Klett, Christian Post Reporter
August 12, 2019

Marty Sampson, a prolific worship music writer known for his work with Hillsong Worship, Hillsong United, Delirious and Young & Free, revealed he is losing his faith and believes Christianity is “just another religion.”

“Time for some real talk,” the Australian writer wrote in a since-deleted post on Instagram. “I’m genuinely losing my faith, and it doesn’t bother me. Like, what bothers me now is nothing. I am so happy now, so at peace with the world. It’s crazy.”

“This is a soapbox moment so here I go … How many preachers fall? Many,” he continued. “No one talks about it. How many miracles happen. Not many. No one talks about it. Why is the Bible full of contradictions? No one talks about it. How can God be love yet send four billion people to a place, all ‘coz they don’t believe? No one talks about it. Christians can be the most judgmental people on the planet—they can also be some of the most beautiful and loving people. But it’s not for me.”

The “All I Need Is You” writer said he’s “not in” anymore and desires “genuine truth.”

“Not the ‘I just believe it’ kind of truth,” he wrote. “Science keeps piercing the truth of every religion. Lots of things help people change their lives, not just one version of God. Got so much more to say, but for me, I keeping it real. Unfollow if you want, I’ve never been about living my life for others.”

Christianity “just seems to me like another religion at this point,” Sampson said.

“I could go on, but I won’t,” he wrote. “Love and forgive absolutely. Be kind absolutely. Be generous and do good to others absolutely. Some things are good no matter what you believe. Let the rain fall, the sun will come up tomorrow.”

Sampson’s announcement, accompanied by a picture of Sampson pulling down the temple pillars as described in the Bible, sparked an outpouring of responses on social media.

Popular Christian author Drew Dyck said he was “saddened” to learn of Sampson’s abandonment of Christianity.

John Mason, founder of the God First, Life Second movement, said Sampson’s falling away demonstrates that “our minds are directly related to our spiritual position.”

“When sound biblical theology is neglected for an American, spiritualized, cultural friendly replacement, exposure to that theology will naturally turn away a mind, heart & soul that has never submitted to that eternal truth. In other words, the falling away is the right response,” he tweeted.

“The good news is, by God’s grace, he and others still have an opportunity to believe in Christ through the truth of the Gospel, be disciplined and trust fully in God’s Word with the help of the Spirit. We should pray that someone will talk alongside them and show them the truth.”

Answers in Genesis founder Ken Ham said Sampson’s rejection of his former beliefs reinforces the need for parents to instruct their children in doctrinal truths at an early age. “This sad situation about this person is a reminder the church & parents need to teach apologetics to counter today’s attacks on God’s Word,” he tweeted.

Sampson’s post comes just weeks after famed Christian author Joshua Harris announced that he no longer considers himself a Christian.

“I have undergone a massive shift in regard to my faith in Jesus. The popular phrase for this is ‘deconstruction,’ the biblical phrase is ‘falling away,'” Harris, former pastor and author of I Kissed Dating Goodbye, announced on Instagram on July 26. “By all the measurements that I have for defining a Christian, I am not a Christian.”

Harris’ announcement sparked a debate within the evangelical Christian community regarding the doctrine of salvation, with some arguing he was never truly a Christian.

“There may be even some who sin by repudiating Christianity, but if they ever were genuinely Christian, they will return by repentance at some point, and that is a Gospel promise,” R. Albert Mohler Jr., president of The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, said. “If persons do continue in their repudiation of Christianity, then we have to remember the text 1 John 2:19 where we are told that, ‘They went out from us, because they were not of us,’ which is to say they never were truly Christians. They were pretend believers.”
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I wanted to say a few words about some of the content on this page:

Songwriter for Hillsong Tells Fans He’s Lost His Faith – via P J Media

Excerpts:

Shortly after Joshua Harris announced he’s no longer a Christian, PJ Media’s managing editor Paula Bolyard warned us to “expect to see more and more of these defections in the coming years” from evangelical celebrities.

Taking measure of the changing landscape, she noted that growing cultural and social costs are beginning to be required of Christians.

Like every other Christian, evangelical celebrities are being asked to pick up their crosses in ways they previously haven’t.

Bolyard wisely understands that as the fame and money that used to come with being an evangelical celebrity dry up, those who were never truly trusting in Christ will be exposed.

Sadly, another Evangelical celebrity has publicly renounced his faith. Hillsong worship leader Marty Sampson shared a note with his Instagram followers declaring that “I’m genuinely losing my faith…

…One of the original members of Hillsong United, Marty Sampson was part of the songwriting team of the immensely successful group as well as the equally popular Hillsong Worship.

…Echoing Bolyard’s article, those who are truly God’s children through repentance of sins and faith in Jesus Christ will not walk away from the faith.
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Regarding the comments by Paula Bolyard:
There seems to be this assumption by many Christians that people who are leaving the faith were “fakers” or “phonies” who never came to Christ to start with.

In this specific instance, Bolyard, as this article describes it, seems to be suggesting that celebrity Christians are walking away from the faith because of … celebrity.

She seems to be implying those famous Christians who have left the faith were motivated to pretend to be in it at the start by fame or greed.

It is my personal opinion that, yes, there are a lot of “fakes” in the church today, a lot of them motivated by ego, greed, and who knows what else (preacher Mark Driscoll is an example of this).

However, I don’t believe that each and every Christian who walks away from the faith, including a “celebrity” Christian, was a fake convert from the start.

Whether Christians want to accept it or not – and it looks like most of them find this too frightening or depressing to accept – it is a fact that people who were actual, genuine believers in Christ do sometimes reject the faith (even Jesus made note of this in his discussion about seed falling on good soil, bad soil, or rocky soil).

It’s simply not true that all professing believers who leave the faith were “never really Christians to start with,” or were wolves in sheep’s clothing, or were fake or phony, or were initially motivated to be in the faith due to money or fame.

I myself am not wealthy, famous, and I am not a “celebrity Christian,” yet I find myself partially at odds with the faith, and have been for years.

I am the “real deal.” I am, or was, a “real, true” Christian.

Sometimes, real, true, actual Christians can and do reject the faith, for myriads of reasons, and fame and greed are not among those motivations – neither is a desire to be hedonistic (ie, sexual libertine behavior) another motivator for all who leave.

I myself remain sexually abstinent into my adult years, I certainly do not condone sexual promiscuity from anyone (including myself), so having “forbidden nooky” is not one of my reasons for possibly leaving the faith.

This statement, from the editorial at PJ Media (linked to above in this post) is false on its face:

…Echoing Bolyard’s article, those who are truly God’s children through repentance of sins and faith in Jesus Christ will not walk away from the faith. …Those who apostatize (renounce their faith) are giving evidence that they hadn’t tasted of  God’s saving grace to begin with.

Yes, people who are “truly God’s children through repentance of sins and faith in Jesus Christ” and who “taste God’s saving grace” can and do sometimes leave the faith.

Hebrews 6 in the Bible (Link to Hebrews 6) is not saying that it’s not possible for a “real” believer to reject Christ and leave the faith:
it’s saying that if and when this happens, that person cannot repent again, because he or she is “crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace.”

To keep living in denial about this (that actual, true, and real Christians do leave the faith) and to argue against it is to bear false witness against your neighbor.

From what I’ve seen when more well-known Christians leave the faith, many of those still in the faith (who issue statements on blogs, twitter, pod casts or magazine articles) are either very hateful towards them, or are incredibly insulting, condescending, and patronizing and show a great deal of ignorance of how and why someone leaves the faith.


More:

Christianity Did Not Help Me, It Did Not Work For Me

Posts from Roll to Disbelieve Blog Regarding Christians Who Deconvert or Deconstruct

Deconstruction, Deconversion, Joshua Harris, and the Awful Christian Reaction

The No True Scotsman and Christians’ Version of Atheism – Regarding Christian Deconversion

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