• Rejoinders to Wartburg Whiner Posts: Women Navy Seals, Damore’s Google Memo, and Notice How Griggs’ Sexism Extends To Secular Life; It Is Extra- Biblical

Rejoinders to Wartburg Whiner Posts: Women Navy Seals, Damore’s Google Memo, and Notice How Griggs’ Sexism Extends To Secular Life; It Is Extra- Biblical

Re: woman trainee dropping out of Navy SEALS training:

Men; Women: – Viva La Difference – post on Wartburg Whiners blog

First of all, it’s a good thing, or just a neutral thing, that women are allowed to even to try out for the Navy Seals. How is it bad that the Seals allow women to apply?

Is Griggs implying no, it’s not a good thing that the Seals are open to women members?

Or is Griggs just happy that a woman tried out and dropped out? What if she had stayed in and passed the course, what then?

• The James Damore Google Tech-Bro Meme Stating that Women are Biologically Unsuited to Work at Tech Professions (Part 2)

The James Damore Google Tech-Bro Meme Stating that Women are Biologically Unsuited to Work at Tech Professions (Part 2)

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I believe, it is my view, that the thing that really motivated this guy, Damore, to write this entire memo was this part of his memo (for more on who this guy is, and what my posts are all about, please see Part 1):

In highly progressive environments, conservatives are a minority that feel like they need to stay in the closet to avoid open hostility. We should empower those with different ideologies to be able to express themselves.

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I am a conservative – and yes, I agree, often times, liberals use P.C. to silence dissenters by using fear.

I’m sympathetic with this guy to a point, but the way to correct some over-bearing P.C. beliefs or practices of liberals, or a P.C. work culture, is not to argue, as he’s doing essentially, that some sexist views should be openly practiced or embraced.

Damore wants to openly believe sexist things about women, and wants to argue for corporate policies that would hold women back, but he doesn’t want to be held accountable for any of this – because holding him accountable would be, in his view, “political correctness” or a case of liberals picking on a conservative.

I’m a right winger, I am a conservative myself, and sorry, dude, but I’m not buying this.

I may be anti-P.C., and I’m not fond of all things liberal, but I am opposed to sexism, no matter who, what, where, when or why it’s being championed or allowed.

And the fact that you, Damore, keep insisting in your memo that your sexist views really aren’t sexist because biology!, and because you really aren’t sexist, doesn’t really change the fact that those views are in fact… sexist. They’re still sexist.

• The James Damore Google Tech-Bro Meme Stating that Women are Biologically Unsuited to Work at Tech Professions (Part 1)

The James Damore Google Tech-Bro Meme Stating that Women are Biologically Unsuited to Work at Tech Professions (Part 1)

(( Part 2 ))

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I am a conservative and never have been a supporter of P.C. (political correctness).

Do liberals sometimes create a climate of fear and dread such that any one who does not support their views feels too afraid to speak up and disagree?

I’d say yes, most definitely. Even this one liberal tech lady admits to that, and she’s not okay with it.

A young Google employee named James Damore wrote a ten page memo (memo? That’s more like a research paper) explaining why he believes there are not more women working in STEM- related fields.

Some of Damore’s views supposedly hinge on biology: he believes there are biological reasons that explain women’s career choices, or how women are treated in technological based careers.

I am going to hit this point home off and on in this blog post and the next, should I break this up into more than one post:

If Damore had written that he’s seen studies that suggest that black people are biologically superior than white people at picking cotton on plantations and not as biologically adept at working on computers as whites, and should therefore not be employed at coding with a tech firm, your reaction to those views would be, what? Would you be just as angry or sad that he was fired by his employer?

Damore does not cite the research, if he used any (not that I saw, and I looked several times on a site that copied his memo).

He just states things as fact, things such as,

Women, on average, have more:

• Openness directed towards feelings and aesthetics rather than ideas. Women generally also have a stronger interest in people rather than things, relative to men (also interpreted as empathizing vs. systemizing).

(end Damore quote. Source)

Edit:

…Many of Damore’s controversial conclusions rest heavily on one recent study and much older, now-discredited research, ignoring reams of data that tell a very different story. (source here, and excerpts in Part 2, at bottom of page)

He also states (and I will return to this later)

…Women, on average, have more:

• Extraversion expressed as gregariousness rather than assertiveness. Also, higher agreeableness.
• This leads to women generally having a harder time negotiating salary, asking for raises, speaking up, and leading. Note that these are just average differences and there’s overlap between men and women, but this is seen solely as a women’s issue. This leads to exclusory programs like Stretch and swaths of men without support.
• Neuroticism (higher anxiety, lower stress tolerance)…..

I have no idea where he is getting these ideas from.

What research is he referring to? I did not see book titles or URLs listed. There is no “works cited” page under his memo anywhere that I could see.

Damore has a section in his memo entitled, “Non-discriminatory ways to reduce the gender gap” with bullet points of suggestions.

Damore later says, “I strongly believe in gender and racial diversity…”

If he truly means he wants greater diversity, he has a strange way of going about it.